Crusaders of Faith Gaming Community

Why it’s important to choose well your MMORPG

As we all know, there is some games that are better then other and often the main criterias are gameplay and graphics. Well, over those points, in the case of MMORPG there is the admin team to consider as a factor to choose a game.

Some games definitely have better admin team then others and often it is hard to know before you join and play the game or get some serious feedback about some experienced players from the game. Some factor like the activity of the admin team, the quality of the service they provide, the respect of the user community and the constant fight against cheaters are some of the more important aspects to consider when you choose an online MMORPG. This is true for games like World of Warcraft to browser based role playing game.

Since a few month, our gaming community support a game called SpeedWar, a game browser based MMORPG that have the potential to be one of the best of this kind i’ve played but that is completely ruined by its management team and the admin named Ash.

Short resume:
To shortly resume the situation, this admin banned our chain leader for absolutely no reason while there was less then 12h left to win the age, which was doable by BushBrgd. He also previously banned ViciousHunter from IRC channel (then hold his access for 1 week) cause he was trying to express his point of view on the IRC channel.

This was followed by a censorship campaign by the SpeedWar admin on their forum by deleting posts and threads. Our alliance have been disrecpected the same way the players involved were. In all the conversation we had with the admin side, they were rude and disrecpectfull while we were polite and respectfull. All this lead to thise few article on the subject that make clear all the story:

Wake up call to SpeedWar admins
Wake up call to SpeedWar admins – Part I
Wake up call to SpeedWar admins – Part II

Latest development:
Since the last post of all this story, i’ve been banned on IRC channel and in-game for no reason. I was idling on IRC channel at 2am and i got kicked and banned from there as soon as Ash joined the channel. Shortly after, i’ve notice that i’m banned over the game too. I didn’t break any rules to deserve this on my account.

Thursday April 19th 2007
[02:13:09] * ash has joined #Speedwar
[02:13:09] * CSB sets mode: +v ash
[02:13:18] * CSB sets mode: +qo ash ash
[02:15:37] ash: ViciousHunter
[02:15:38] ash: good bye
[02:15:48] * CSB sets mode: +b *!*@Cyanide-59F99CB4.mc.videotron.ca
[02:15:48] * You were kicked by CSB (User has been banned from the channel)
[02:15:48] * Attempting to rejoin channel #Speedwar
[02:15:48] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)

This is just another abusive ban from Ash. I guess this is in reaction these few articles about the shocking truth on his bad behaviour on the users that have been put on the light… and he can’t censor it this time! That is right, here we believe in freedom of speech (as most people on the planet) so we can’t let you go away so easily with it.

Since an image worth a thousand words, here is a post of Ash in the thread “Why my thread was deleted”:

Crusaders of Faith gaming community
The whole situation shortly raised a few concern in Crusaders of Faith alliance and lead discussion about the events and a poll about weather or not CoF should pull is support to SpeedWar game. The result are out and CoF have decided to stop supporting SpeedWar game. This age will be the last one of our alliance and it will be disbanded in SpeedWar.

This decision was hard to take since we know it can be a great game and that even if it is a small proportion of our community, some players might continue to play.

I was hoping that all those article would help and benefits to the game, but it guess this will not happened since admin don’t want to listen to their users. Some people are giving 10$ donation to play this game and what they have in exchange, the right to get kicked and banned of the game without reason just cause they don’t want you around.

The anger of user community is rising since a long time in this game, it have lost popularity too. There is also other people that are blogging about SpeedWar to express what they want to the admin without censorship. People have reported that this blog have been advertize in the game and posted on SpeedWar forums. Looks like all this campaign against Ash is not yet done if we look at the counter on the site.

Conclusion
Most gamers put a lot of time in playing the games they like and playing and like to see our efforts lead to something. So, when it can be gone quickly like this in these last issues and over stupid reasons (power-trip, childish behaviour), i’d say i’m gone too and i’ll spend some time elsewhere. It is always frustrating to play a game you like for a few months and having it to end over stupid things like this.

Choose your game well, especially if you are to invest a lot of time in it and playing seriously. Try to find feedback from users and quickly see how the admins are managing the whole thing. SpeedWar admin team are clearly lacking in some of the major points that make the difference between a game and great game and it is why we wouldn’t encourage anyone to start playing this game.

This will be the last age of Crusaders of Faith alliance in SpeedWar game.

On this, i leave you with the latest logs from Ash:

[06:47] ash: ?
[06:47] Vendetta: why was SMEGMA banned?
[06:48] Vendetta: just wondering
[06:48] ash: i banned to top CoF players
[06:49] Vendetta: who?
[06:49] ash: who ever i could find that was big, their abuse towards me has ended.
[06:50] Vendetta: do you want CoF to disolve?
[06:51] ash: i want their leaders to give up their compaign against me. if i have to kill them all so be it
[06:59] Vendetta: ok so one last question
[07:00] ash: sure
[07:00] Vendetta: if i were to be head of age and i havent argued with you abused you and such would i be banned?
[07:00] ash: no
[07:01] Vendetta: did SMEGMA bitch and complain all the time like Bush?
[07:02] ash: yeah
[07:03] ash: but idc
[07:03] ash: i dont like CoF nemore
[07:03] ash: if they keep posting about me, ill wipe them all out
[07:03] Vendetta: ok thx

…i don’t plan to be censored and shut down with blackmailing!

VH

TapaGeuR a.k.a. ViciousHunter

References (some links are members only):

• CoF’s Official SW Support
• Seriously… CoF future on SpeedWar
• SpeedWar vs Freedom of speech
• What happened to BushBrgd

Previous post on the same subject:

• Wake up call to SpeedWar admins
• Wake up call to SpeedWar admins – Part I
• Wake up call to SpeedWar admins – Part II

The abusive ban of ViciousHunter on IRC

Here we are, still speaking the sad truth about the administration team on the online game SpeedWar. This time it is about the banning of ViciousHunter from the #speedwar channel on IRC, and it was also for no reason. For what is about the conversation that occured with a few comments:

Wednesday March 28th 2007
[23:19:18] ViciousHunter: pff
[23:19:19] ViciousHunter: Hey all,
[23:19:19] ViciousHunter: Theres been a few concerns lately about officer limits, seeing as some can have more officers then others.
[23:19:19] ViciousHunter: So therefore from now on, anymore officers then the max limit (After everyones officers are kicked at the begining of the age) will have there accounts banned from bug abuse.
[23:19:19] ViciousHunter: I give everyone 12 hours to fix up there officer lists (If this applys to you), else you will be banned for exploiting a bug.
[23:19:19] ViciousHunter: Thanks, have a good age!
[23:19:19] ViciousHunter: erderr
[23:19:26] ViciousHunter: ^^ fix the damn game and stop bothering the users

That is a message that was sent from the admins in the game.

[23:19:39] amanda516: what
[23:19:53] ash: its bug abuse. plain and simple
[23:19:58] ViciousHunter: rofl
[23:20:11] ViciousHunter: if someone do it on purpose…
[23:20:18] ViciousHunter: i agree
[23:20:38] ash: they are using the link
[23:20:40] ash: so
[23:20:46] ash: they are going out of their way to do it
[23:21:02] amanda516: yeah but last age
[23:21:09] amanda516: someone kept doing it to agrona
[23:21:13] amanda516: and they got the link
[23:21:14] Bushbrgd: if one of my 25 officers changes race, anyone can join me
[23:21:22] amanda516: so how is the commander suppose to stop that
[23:21:26] Bushbrgd: will i be kicked for that?
[23:21:29] ViciousHunter: anyway, that still annoy the users for a few punks that should be kicked instead of be warned

Bush mentioned a good point, someone can do it without knowing it while joining a commander that have 1 or more officers « unranked » (done when you change nation). I commander can be sleeping or not notice during the 12 hours countdown that admin gives. Bush and me are all for kicking the dissident players that do it on purpose and and multiple times.

[23:22:32] ash: take it up with erderr (giggles)
[23:23:38] ash: but in the long run, check your officers list and stop it. otherwise what erderr says goes
[23:23:56] ViciousHunter: anyway, points is that instead of taking 5 min to write down the message to all users, you should have took 5 min to try to look at the problem and find a way to solve it!
[23:24:13] erderr: no
[23:24:17] ViciousHunter: ROFL!
[23:24:22] erderr: I’m sick of people whineing about it
[23:24:32] erderr: plain simple way to solve it
[23:24:33] ViciousHunter: so you whine at the users!
[23:24:46] amanda516: hi erderr:P
[23:24:49] ash: ViciousHunter
[23:24:51] ViciousHunter: dictatorship
[23:24:52] ash: stfu
[23:24:52] * amanda516 hugs Erderr
[23:24:59] ViciousHunter: and that make users go away
[23:25:00] erderr: we can only do so much in our position
[23:25:01] ash: ill dicatate to u if u want
[23:25:10] ash: heres what i dicatate
[23:25:10] ash: stfu
[23:25:12] ViciousHunter: you stfu, me?
[23:25:12] ash: or get out.
[23:25:13] ash:
[23:25:22] ash: erderr is doing what is right

I couldn’t believe it, being STFU by an admin for expressing a point of view and how ash can turn a conversation that can be positive about the game into a trash one. Maybe he just can’t take a smart conversation for a long time, if you know what i mean…

[23:25:35] * ViciousHunter slaps ash around a bit with a dictotarship dream!

I was also so pissed off, that i slap him. That is not usually my kind, so i have found something funny to slap him with!

[23:25:37] ash: if people are abusing the bug the commanders are allowing it since they are not kicking them
[23:25:47] * ash gets ban happy in 2mins
[23:25:47] ViciousHunter: yeah
[23:25:54] ViciousHunter: but you threats all the users
[23:25:58] amanda516: LOL:P
[23:26:06] Bushbrgd: ash, it would be easy to get people banned
[23:26:09] ash: thats not threatening
[23:26:15] ash: thats a warning
[23:26:16] ViciousHunter: hell yeah, bush
[23:26:24] Bushbrgd: i could send a multi to agrona easy
[23:26:33] ash: and we can track it to you
[23:26:39] Agrona: and I would kick it within seconds
[23:26:43] Bushbrgd: come on, i am serious
[23:26:46] Agrona: I have been doing it for 2 ages now
[23:26:48] ash: so am *censored* i
[23:26:56] ash: always the same group
[23:27:03] ash: always the same bunch of retards
[23:27:10] ash: who are ALWAYS questioning the admins

Again, he blatantly insult whoever he want that disagree with him and try to tell him in a polite way. Maybe some people are smarters then other and questions things, especially when they think it can be improve.

[23:27:18] erderr: idd
[23:27:25] ash: u know how it runs?
[23:27:30] ash: we answer to rolz14
[23:27:32] erderr: small group vs the majority

This is another proof about the admins ignoring anything that is not on the same side of the line they made. They are clearly telling to all that they don’t care about your opinion, the opinion of its own users community.

[23:27:38] ash: u answer to us
[23:27:50] ash: if rolz14 doesnt like he will tell the admins
[23:27:52] ash: if u dont like
[23:27:56] ash: jsut leave
[23:28:29] ash: cause it aint our job to put up with whiners who are questioning us, admins do their jobs and thats it.
[23:29:10] Bushbrgd: lol, it was whiners who started all this. I just disagree with your solution. But I really couldnt care less, lol.
[23:29:23] ash: neither.
[23:29:28] erderr: ash, they only whine because it effects them the most… the rest are actually playing the game for what its suppose to be, not exploiting every bug they can find.

This is a false accussation of cheating on CoF chain and a weak way to try to make more importance on his empty reason to put it on us.

[23:29:37] ash: aye.
[23:29:42] ash: Bush
[23:29:46] ash: u say u dont care
[23:29:49] ash: why play
[23:29:50] ash: :/
[23:29:52] Bushbrgd: I will try to keep my officers kicked, but it is not possible to be 100% compliant
[23:29:54] ash: why waste ur time
[23:30:01] amanda516: has it been ur two minutes before ur ban happy?
[23:30:07] ash:
[23:30:14] amanda516:
[23:30:19] ash: if u marry me amanda516 ill take it to 30mins
[23:30:37] amanda516: im lost on that?
[23:30:37] Agrona: you are a few weeks late ash .. she just got married
[23:30:40] drenden: ijust find all this annoying when this is the first shot i get to runand all thesed changes are made or enforced
[23:30:45] amanda516: im not gonna get banned i dont have that many offys
[23:30:51] ViciousHunter: ok, i’ll make it simple, i don’t need that crap cause i was not here to take all this. my point is speaking up a point that i think you should be aware of cause i’m not the only user to think like this. I might be one of the only one to speak it up. You shut down the forum and it is the only place to speaks to admins team in here. if you can’t take criticism, well i don’t care, but being tell stfu is just making a discussion nowhere instead of maybe learning something
[23:31:13] * You were kicked by CSB (Requested (ash))

… and have an intelligent conversation.

[23:31:13] * Attempting to rejoin channel #speedwar
[23:31:14] * Rejoined channel #Speedwar
[23:31:14] * Topic is ‘Welcome to #speedwar home of the Speedwars -|- No recruiting, we are not a dating service -|- Keep abuse and insults out of channel. -|- No KoC links -|- No Advertising Channels -|- English Only -|- Online -|- Game being reset.. Please be patient. -|- Reset scheduled for tmrw (Aussie time)’
[23:31:14] * Set by BuNNy_WaBBiT on Mon Mar 26 16:19:09
[23:31:14] * CSB sets mode: +v ViciousHunter
[23:31:19] ash: FOR UR INFO
[23:31:20] ash: i left
[23:31:22] ash: THE FORUMS
[23:31:24] ash: *censored* me dead
[23:31:25] ash: PORN
[23:31:25] ash: PORN
[23:31:26] ash: PORN
[23:31:26] ash: PORN
[23:31:26] ash: PORN
[23:31:26] ash: PORN
[23:31:27] ash: PORN
[23:31:27] ash: PORN
[23:31:32] ash: U *censored* abused the forums
[23:31:34] ash: i rang rolz
[23:31:35] ash: told him
[23:31:37] ash: he agreed
[23:31:47] ash: u watse our time
[23:31:48] ViciousHunter: i abused the forum?
[23:31:51] ash: we take it away
[23:31:58] drenden: not everyone abused it
[23:31:59] ash: everyone did
[23:32:01] erderr: There are always PM’s and IRC anyway.
[23:32:03] ash: idk
[23:32:07] ash: forums are dead
[23:32:12] ash: wont be coming back at all.
[23:32:13] ViciousHunter: cause you were saying i was…
[23:32:19] amanda516: thats cuz there is too much whining
[23:32:23] ViciousHunter: rofl
[23:32:27] drenden: i remember when i was banned for someone using my pass and creating multies
[23:32:35] ViciousHunter: maybe there is reason behind all this
[23:32:41] amanda516: ur little brother drenden?
[23:32:56] drenden: and i couldn’t say anything about it in here i had to go to forum

Once again, ash blame me with empty accussation for abusing the forum when i never did. There is an interesting point mentioned in this last few lines. First, ash is saying that the forum will not be back at all. Well, it just get back online a few days ago!

Second, drenden is making a good point, there is people that can’t connect to IRC, either with the Java Applet or with conventional IRC programs. So those users are almost let being cause admin are not really active in the game to send an in-game message.

[23:33:08] ViciousHunter: and ash, next time you want to kick me, do it yourself and leave CSB out of it
[23:33:14] drenden: bni don’t have a brother just a older sister and she doen’t live with me
[23:33:14] AUST_RushK1ller: BSS-iSkylla hey hey
[23:33:15] AUST_RushK1ller: BSS-iSkylla I just came back from a snow patrol concert
[23:33:15] AUST_RushK1ller: BSS-iSkylla totally totally awesome
[23:33:15] AUST_RushK1ller: BSS-iSkylla and no one attacked or sabbed me while I was there
[23:33:17] ash: lol
[23:33:32] ash: ViciuosHunter if u were smart u would see the room is +Q
[23:33:38] ash: CSB is the only way i can kick u
[23:33:43] ViciousHunter: like i care
[23:33:52] * CSB sets mode: +b *!*@Cyanide-59F99CB4.mc.videotron.ca
[23:33:52] * You were kicked by CSB (mmmm)
[23:33:52] * Attempting to rejoin channel #Speedwar
[23:33:52] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)

I think i was right, when he just can’t take a conversation anymore, he kick and ban people fromt he channel. The best of the story is to come, cause i have posted on the SW forums the conversation logs of and a small introduction. I have the title, description and link to this post, which i never saw the replies and got deleted.

SpeedWar vs Freedom of speech
User abused or just stupid attempts at dictatorship?
http://www.speedwar.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=410

They obliviously don’t like criticism, they censor it and cover up what they don’t want to see and hear ignoring the users of their game. If there is one thing in life i hate is censorship cause i believe there is a way to say/criticism anything with appropriate words, especially, when i’m polite and the over if not. I let it this way cause i was really busy at this time and so it finally happened that ash contact me. One night, i received this from ash in IRC:

Tuesday April 3rd 2007
[23:29:01] Session Ident: ash (ash@Cyanide-5D174327.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
[23:29:01] ash: u may return to the speedwar room, please do not irratate me, question me, or annoy me. We have troubles, u dont like me, and i understand why. But from my view and experiance with people who keep arguing with things that admins have decided, it normally ends up in a ban. Try to get past this and be nice.

I’ve wrote a reply to ash, but since he was not only when i saw the message, i sent him another day. When i finally found him, here is the conversation:

Sunday April 8th 2007
[21:50:19] ViciousHunter: finally
[21:50:23] ViciousHunter: about that:
[21:50:28] ViciousHunter: [23:29:01] ash: u may return to the speedwar room, please do not irratate me, question me, or annoy me. We have troubles, u dont like me, and i understand why. But from my view and experiance with people who keep arguing with things that admins have decided, it normally ends up in a ban. Try to get past this and be nice.
[21:50:33] ViciousHunter: here is my reply:

[21:50:38] ViciousHunter: I think you miss my whole point. You said i was arguying, well this is where you get me wrong, i was just trying to let you know what “us” (user community) have in feedback about the admin actions.

[21:50:38] ViciousHunter: I was just trying to make a point, that might be the opposite of your opinion and it resulted in a ban, like users can’t speak out an opinion different then an admin. Sorry if i’ve put it out the wrong way that was not my intention to be rude, annoying or something.

[21:50:38] ViciousHunter: However, being “stfu” (an banned) when i’m trying to contribute to something that might result in an improvement of the game (from a user point of view) cause i have a different point of view that i’m trying to explain, i call this admin abuse. To me (user point of view), it clearly show that you can’t stand criticism when it sound negative to you, and that maybe cause admins have received too much of these in your opinion (i know, not just me as you mention the forum), instead of asking yourselves (admins) why, you just “stfu” the users to get rid of them.

[21:50:38] ViciousHunter: I know admins make good moves and good actions for the SW gamers and that sadly, people don’t always speak it out and say “good job”, but for me it is not a reason to not be receptive to crtitism when it sound negative to admins. But, if you don’t care about these kind of feedback (from a point of view of user) in reaction to the decisions or actions of the admins, then it can definitely hurt the popularity of your game. That’s all.

[21:50:52] ashypoo: dude
[21:50:57] ViciousHunter: and my home address is still banned in the channel, it is the videotron.ca thing
[21:50:58] ashypoo: i dont wanna read all that
[21:51:03] ashypoo: its huge, and its 11:30am!
[21:51:07] ViciousHunter: rofl
[21:51:21] ViciousHunter: that only prove to me that you dont care about speedwar
[21:51:25] ashypoo: ill just take is as you say (admins should respect what ou sy?)
[21:51:29] ViciousHunter: and i don’t care what you are saying
[21:51:31] ViciousHunter: bye bye
[21:51:39] ashypoo: nah
[21:51:43] ashypoo: what my point is
[21:51:57] ashypoo: i get sick of people questioning admin moves
[21:51:59] ashypoo: thats all
[21:52:08] ashypoo: if i didnt care about speedwar i wouldnt be here
[21:53:59] ashypoo: do u understand that? i do care about this game.. more then others do, but sometimes people cross my imaginary line i have

Since i’m not always at the girlfriend home, i need to get unban from #speedwar channel. It’s been 1 week since he told me i could return and i don’t have access to it. So i decided to contact him:

Tuesday April 10th 2007
[23:43:21] ViciousHunter: hey
[23:43:36] ViciousHunter: i need my access back in #speedwar please.
[23:48:35] ash: No
[23:48:54] ash: If u wish to PM Rolz14 do as u please, u are not welcome in #speedwar
[23:48:55] ViciousHunter: what, you told me you would
[23:49:01] ash: yes
[23:49:05] ash: and i did
[23:49:14] ViciousHunter: no, you never unbanned me
[23:49:21] ash: altho i couldnt remove the ban, i asked someone else to do and they did not
[23:49:29] ViciousHunter: you told me you could not cause you are on java
[23:49:45] ash: aye, and i am on java atm
[23:49:49] ViciousHunter: ok
[23:49:51] ViciousHunter: wait
[23:52:59] ViciousHunter: try this
[23:53:03] ViciousHunter: . /mode #speedwar -b *@*.mc.videotron.ca
[23:53:57] ash: You can join as long as u do not cause any rift or trouble
[23:54:00] ash: gimme a sec
[23:55:17] ash: try it now
[23:55:20] ash: i think :S
[23:56:03] ViciousHunter: nope
[23:56:37] ViciousHunter: . /mode #speedwar -b hollywood@Cyanide-59F99CB4.mc.videotron.ca
[23:56:46] ViciousHunter: that is my whole address atm
[23:57:25] ash: 1 sec
[23:58:22] ash: getting it fixed

And i finally had access back. First he said he changed his mind and after i recall him what he said, he let me in at least. Sincerly, it is not the kind of behaviour i would expect from the administrator of a game to have. I’ve been polite and i’ve been flamed with insult and false accusation simply cause i have a different point of view.

These 2 events about the banning of Bush and ViciousHunter have made waves in CoF and there is still discussions about the future of the alliance in SpeedWar game. We want to hear from all on you Crusaders of Faith members. More details about all this should come in the next days. We’ll inform you as soon as you get something new!

VH

TapaGeuR a.k.a. ViciousHunter

References:

• SpeedWar vs Freedom of speech

Previous post on the same subject:

• Wake up call to SpeedWar admins
• Wake up call to SpeedWar admins – Part I

The abusive ban of BushBrgd on forum and in-game

This reporting continue today with the case about the ban of BushBrgd that occured in the last instant of the previous age. This ban was totally uncalled and not deserved by our friend Bush. Plus, it totally screw up the chance for CoF to win another age in SpeedWar. These actions from the (should i say) admin of the game were in the pure intentions of pissing off the whole alliance and show, once again, that he is over yet another power trip.

Since the begining of this story on this site, i’ve never mention the name of the admin in question, but to avoid confusion and since we will show evidence that his behaviour is not what we, users, should expect from and admin, we will reveal his identity even if everybody that know well the game can guess who is it. His name is ash and you might also know him from his in-game name his NeverWinter. I’ve gather some informations about the issue and let me present and comment the facts.

BushBrgd ban over the forum:
This is how Bush got banned from the forum, he was chatting on IRC on the SW channel and made a comment about Agrona having 27 officers. Bush also messaged Agrona to tell her to kick the officers that are in the overflow and the convesations went on the down side. Obliviously, ash didn’t like that comment and simply ban him from the forum. Here are the logs so you can judge by yourself:

Sunday April 08 2007
[10:07] Bushbrgd: special privelages as usual. My officers were kicked for this..
[10:07] Bushbrgd: 27 officers total | page 1 of 1
[10:08] Bushbrgd: been like that for 3 days

BushBrgd is right, his officers were kick for it and is was still in the 12 hours cooldown admins let to people to get rid of the extra officers while Agrona did it for longer in the same age. Then, this dialogue happened on the channel:

Sunday April 08 2007
[10:16] ash: Bushbrgd
[10:17] ash: EVERYONE
[10:17] ash: listen
[10:17] ash: and spread the *censored* word
[10:17] ash: If your officer limit is over 25, we will not i repeat NOT be kicking
[10:17] ash: Rolz14 has personally told us NOT TO
[10:17] ash: Stop whinning, there are NO privileges for anyone.
[10:17] Bushbrgd: of course not. It is not me that has 27 it is your buddy agrona
[10:18] Bushbrgd: i wouldnt expect you to do anything

Shortly after this part, Bush left the channel and find himself ban on the forum. First of all, why banning someone over this simple comment about the game. Second, why banning someone on the forum when this all happened on IRC? This is like cutting the home electricity of someone when he doesn’t pay his phone bill, except that in our case, Bush paid his phone bill! SpeedWar admin ash is on dictatorship, censorship and power-trip spree these days and we can’t accept that. If he can’t face the truth about his own actions, then in my opinion he need to grow up a little before being a system admin.

BushBrgd ban in-game:
A couple days later, Bush wanted to know and understand why he is banned on forum, so he messaged ash about it. The conversation quickly thread into a flame on Bush. Ash was rude, disrespectfull and abusive to Bush and for no reason (again) ash used his admin power to ban Bush at another place, in-game!

Tuesday April 10 2007
[23:18] Bushbrgd: why did you ban me from speedwar?
[23:30] ash: bc im sick of ur bs
[23:34] Bushbrgd: dude, i did nothing to be banned
[23:34] Bushbrgd: its your normal power trip no more
[23:35] Bushbrgd: grow up and take your responsibility that was GIVEN to you by Rolz and take it serious
[23:35] Bushbrgd: geez
[23:35] ash: yea
[23:36] ash: but u see
[23:36] ash: Rolz doesn’t rele care, i know what he would say to me “be nice”
[23:36] ash: but u c
[23:36] ash: the way u complain
[23:36] ash: and cry
[23:36] ash: and whine
[23:36] ash: is like a 5yrold
[23:36] Bushbrgd: only when you are around
[23:36] ash: and that is why im not lettng u in speedwar
[23:36] Bushbrgd: like soooo many others that you annoy the crap out of
[23:36] ash: i dont want you there
[23:36] ash: and what i say goes
[23:37] Bushbrgd: you see, nobody has much to complain about when you go away
[23:37] Bushbrgd: so please do
[23:37] ash: you see, no one even likes you
[23:37] ash: lmfao
[23:37] Bushbrgd: plenty like me
[23:37] ash: ur officers dont like you
[23:37] ash: ur alliance doesnt
[23:37] ash: lol
[23:37] Bushbrgd: just not your little butt buddy agrona
[23:37] ash: ive talked to ur top officers
[23:37] ash: they are sick of u
[23:37] ash: ahh
[23:37] Bushbrgd: yeah sure
[23:37] ash: keep it up
[23:37] ash: and ill power trip
[23:37] ash: to ban you for rest of age
[23:37] ash:
[23:37] Bushbrgd: please do prick
[23:38] Bushbrgd: you got nothing left to do to me
[23:38] Bushbrgd: by the way my “top officer”
[23:38] Bushbrgd: vicioiushunter, says your a punk and I agree
[23:38] ash: yea
[23:38] ash: have fun
[23:39] ash: talk to rolz about being unbanned
[23:39] ash: for abusing admins
[23:39] Bushbrgd: whatever dude
[23:39] Bushbrgd: give the age to agrona
[23:39] Bushbrgd: thats what she wanted anyways
[23:40] ash: i dont give agrona anything
[23:40] ash: ur abuse towars me has gone far enough
[23:40] Bushbrgd: convinient it is the last day and i am making my move
[23:40] Bushbrgd: smooth

Sadly, Rolz14 (the main admin) don’t really care about the game from what ash is telling in this logs and it only left him to handle in a crappy way the game. He do what please him to satisfy his childish behaviour and power-trip cause i guess it makes him feel good and important. But in fact, this kind of behaviour is making the users go away more quiclky than it can attract them to the game.

I’d like to remind everyone that it is ash in the last bit of conversation that once again started to call names and insult the other side first. He says enormous lies to Bush about his chain that dislike him and such where it is completely false. Even if there was some that dislike Bush, even in his chain, do we care, people are free to leave and go where ever it please them!

Moreover, his only reason he use everytime to do what please him is “you annoy me” which is not an undeniable and unbreakable reasons to motivate all his actions. In fact and like Bush mentioned it in the logs, it is more often ash that annoy people on IRC and in general, but most people are just too scared and coward to tell him cause they are scared to be banned… and they are right, cause he just smite all he dislike. This is exactly, why we need to stand up and need to denounce the situation. I have multiple example in hand of people that can tell that ash is annoying and abusive and this goes since a long time. I just get recent event were what make the glass of water full to finally overflow…

Finally:
Finally, BushBrgd was unbanned for Age 8, but was still too pissed off to play seriously. I totally understand how Bush is feeling in all this… Would you play a game where you can see all you efforts (not only individual efforts, but alliance efforts) that can be done over a stubborn over-reaction of an admin on a power-trip? NO! So that is why there is a lot of people i know, they are slowly leaving the game, giving it less importance and it will lead to a complete quit sooner or later if the admins don’t wake up and change this kind of management to a better one.

This saga will continue soon with more about my ban (as mention in the first post on the subject) and more example of the behaviour of an abusive admin.

VH

TapaGeuR a.k.a. ViciousHunter

References: What happened to BushBrgd
Previous post on the same subject: Wake up call to SpeedWar admins

In the last week, i’ve been thinking in reaction to the recent events in SpeedWar related to me and some other people in Crusaders of Faith. I’ve been thinking about this as an individual, concerning the way i was consider and treat from the admin (one in particular). Secondly, i’ve been thinking about how some friends and been consider and treat again from some admin of SpeedWar game. Finally, i’ve been thinking about all this about how CoF have been consider and respected by the admin of SpeedWar…

Short resume of the situtation:
As some of you might already know, BushBrgd was banned on the game in the last 12 hours on the in-game while we could have a shot at place #1 (for no reason)! To me, this is the last straw. I was myself “stfu” and banned on IRC for expressing my point of view. This is disrespectfull, rude and un-professional. There is a player named Speel, that was officer of Bush that deleted his account because of it and he was in top #10 in the last few hours of last age.

But, what is the more awfull about all this, it is that both ban stories started over a discussion (if i can say this cause we’ve been censored) about a game bug, that admins want to be resolved by smiting the users instead of fixing it. BushBrgd, ruckusmaker said they are done with this game and Bush even filled up a claim on PayPal, cause he did nothing wrong to lose his privilege upon donation.

My point of view:
Personally, i don’t want to support this game anymore. Seriously, this is ridiculous and this is should be about fun. Afterall, we like to see our efforts lead to something and when it can be gone quickly like this over stupid reasons (power-trip, childish behaviour), i’d say i’m gone too and i’ll spend some time elsewhere.

They obliviously don’t like criticism, they censor it and cover up what they don’t want to see and hear, ignoring the users of their game. If there is one thing in life i hate is censorship cause i believe there is a way to say/criticism anything with appropriate words, especially, when i’m polite and the other side is not.

Alliance point of view:
If all the decision was only about me and i wouldn’t care about the user community of my own gaming community, i would have shut down CoF alliance on SpeedWar and delete my account. I know there is some players that still have a vault, cause they are recent donator and i’d like to give them the support they deserve, as any other CoF member, so i think a sudden stop is not a good option.

Also, i’m for giving a chance to people to about some mistakes and maybe this post will finally reach SW admins eyes and mind as an attempt to a positive criticism of their work. For all these reason, i officially announce that this is my last age in SW. I don’t think i’ll be active as the previous age, but i’ll help where i can in the chain.

Present situation:
It’s still early to tell the future of CoF on SpeedWar cause the discussions started recently, but we can tell that there is a general bitter taste in Crusaders of Faith community about the admin of SpeedWar game and sadly, this is also true among other alliance. Game is losing tons of players each age and admin are not helping it with their behaviour that makes user go away.

I’m about to post the whole story of all what lead the founders of CoF on SpeedWar to leave the game and maybe, this will at least wake up the admins about the losing popularity of a game that have the potential to be one of the best of this kind i’ve played. Stay tune!

VH

TapaGeuR a.k.a. ViciousHunter

Other posts on this story:
Follow-up: Wake up call to SpeedWar admins – Part I – The abusive ban of BushBrgd on forum and in-game

That’s right, CoF is now hitting MySpace! You might ask yourself: “What’s the point of CoF on MySpace?“. Well, i think it can be a good way to promote our alliance to the “outside” world and gain some visibility over the web. Feel free to add Crusaders of Faith to your friends list to help promote the alliance and increase CoF network.